: Research tangent: What was the biggest university in 1191?

I've gone and got obsessed about a piece of trivia. Having taken this as far as I can, thanks to the wonders of the interweb I can inflict this on you all and hope, through some random fluke, some academic will one day answer my questions. (Perhaps they have a google alert set up for medieval universities. Perhaps I'll end up with a thriving argument between Angkorian archeologists and Baghdadi bibliophiles. Or perhaps this post will just sit here until the end of time.)
But if this questions gets answered, I'll edit the relevant Wikipedia entries. I promise.
My tour guide told me that Preah Khan, a Buddhist university complex built on a battlefield and dedicated in 1191, was the biggest university of its day. I instinctively doubted this, thinking the medieval western universities were just getting going around then. As you'll read, Europe was an intellectual also-ran at the time, and if Preah Khan had any rivals, they certainly weren't writing things down in Latin and waving papal dispensations.
This what I found:
Bologna, Oxford, and Modena were also around at the time, but are unlikely to be much bigger than Paris.
I cannot find how big they were.
I don't suppose anyone has those?
An article in the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs allegedly claims it was the biggest medieval university - but you need to pay to access the article and the title (the only bit I know) does not seem to have anything to do with history
Taken as a whole, Baghdad fans such as Salah Zaimeche claim that the city had a million people and international scholarly fame. Did all the Baghdad (city, place of learning, and imperial capital) have more students and lecturers spread through its many schools, madrassas, and hospitals than Preah Khan (city and university, ten times smaller)? I have no idea, and it anyway shifts the question.
According to a Saudi article called Steeped in Glory, Al-Azhar had several hundred professors by the turn of the second millenium (of the common era) - and nearly 5000 students. I would assume that the article is, despite its title, meticulously balanced, but it does not have references. So did Al-Azhar have 1000 lecturers by 1191?
Anyone?
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I've gone and got obsessed about a piece of trivia. Having taken this as far as I can, thanks to the wonders of the interweb I can inflict this on you all and hope, through some random fluke, some academic will one day answer my questions. (Perhaps they have a google alert set up for medieval universities. Perhaps I'll end up with a thriving argument between Angkorian archeologists and Baghdadi bibliophiles. Or perhaps this post will just sit here until the end of time.)
But if this questions gets answered, I'll edit the relevant Wikipedia entries. I promise.
My tour guide told me that Preah Khan, a Buddhist university complex built on a battlefield and dedicated in 1191, was the biggest university of its day. I instinctively doubted this, thinking the medieval western universities were just getting going around then. As you'll read, Europe was an intellectual also-ran at the time, and if Preah Khan had any rivals, they certainly weren't writing things down in Latin and waving papal dispensations.
This what I found:
Europe
University of Paris
- 3000 - 4000 in the 'academic community' says Medieval France
- The teachers were forming a corporation around this time, and getting Papal immunity from the Mayor of Paris
Bologna, Oxford, and Modena were also around at the time, but are unlikely to be much bigger than Paris.
China
I cannot find how big they were.
- Guozijian, aka the Chinese Imperial Central School
- Hanlin
India
Nalanda University
- Major centre of Buddhist learning
- 2000 staff and 10,000 in total at its zenith
- But deep in decline by the late twelfth century, and sacked six years after Preah Khan was founded
Islamic World
Baghdad
- Al-Nizamiyya of Baghdad (the most reknowned Nizamiyya at this time, established 1065)
- Education was subsidised, sometimes even with free lodging and food
- Best reference would be G. Makdisi, "Muslim Institutions of Learning in Eleventh Century Baghdad", BSOAS, XXIV(1961), 55, reprinted in his Religion, Law and Learning in Classical ...
- Or Nakosteen, Mehdi (1964) History of Islamic Origins of Western Education A.D. 1800-1350: with an Introduction to Medieval Muslim Education, Boulder: University of Colorado Press.
I don't suppose anyone has those?
An article in the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs allegedly claims it was the biggest medieval university - but you need to pay to access the article and the title (the only bit I know) does not seem to have anything to do with history
Taken as a whole, Baghdad fans such as Salah Zaimeche claim that the city had a million people and international scholarly fame. Did all the Baghdad (city, place of learning, and imperial capital) have more students and lecturers spread through its many schools, madrassas, and hospitals than Preah Khan (city and university, ten times smaller)? I have no idea, and it anyway shifts the question.
Al-Azhar in Cairo
According to a Saudi article called Steeped in Glory, Al-Azhar had several hundred professors by the turn of the second millenium (of the common era) - and nearly 5000 students. I would assume that the article is, despite its title, meticulously balanced, but it does not have references. So did Al-Azhar have 1000 lecturers by 1191?
Anyone?
Cambodia
Preah Khan
- 56 hectares
- Over 1000 teachers, says "Ancient Ankor" (Michael Freeman, Claude Jacques, River Books, Thailand, 2003)
- nearly 100,000 people in the city as a whole, says Wikipedia (fully cited, not that I am going to check the citation)
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